4K Gaming is Dumb


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Nikolai Pohodenko
Nikolai Pohodenko

Wrong. Maximal human eye angular resolution is 1 arcminute. In the center of the FOV.

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AceCombat
AceCombat

For 4K losers disliked

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Ensign RageQuit
Ensign RageQuit

1440p 21:9 Master Race

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zeetweets_
zeetweets_

im saving this for the next 10 year challenge

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0ecka
0ecka

WRONG, Linus. 3440x1440 is the right gaming monitor or should I say "resolution". Because a 4K monitor actually allows you to play 3440x1440 on it (which I do). And it's beautiful. While even RTX 2070 can handle it rather well.

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chris Evans
chris Evans

Yeah and sugar dosent give kids hypertardness too. Look im doing a 4k 120hrtz tv 65 inch. My other disply a 1080 sanyo tv at 90hrtz. I sit less than 7 feet from both . And i gotta say wheter yalls little factoids are accurate or not it is clown shoes deluxe bullshit to suggest 4k is not looking waaaaayyyyy better than 1080 or even the mighty 1440 [ that frankly toooo many master race turds have gotten way anoyyingly to fanboy over for too long the way some of the monkies tout and defend it ] . Cause people let me tell you the old days of not being able to have and do it all are long gone nowadays. And overpaying for a tiny monitor isilly . Spend that monitor money on a 2080 ti AND game waaaaayyyyy better with a cheap as chips 55 inch 1080 or 4k display and taste the rainbow. However if you compute like me a 1080 2nd display is really good to cover all your bases i.e my taped from tv snl collection is truly unwatchable at 4k

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NOS Huffer
NOS Huffer

Dude ive been playing at 30fps to 60fps on xbox for a long long long long time now. You think i give a shit about frame rate. Ill take the 4K anyday. People dont only use their computer and shit for games. Movies look better and everything look better and richer.

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Joshua Campbell
Joshua Campbell

I may be biased here, since I've never played anything over 60 hz refresh rate, but I have played all my AAA games on my 4k tv using an active DisplayPort to HDMI adaptor. I can honestly say the graphic fidelity with 4k is extremely noticeable. My active adapter has since crap the bed (as they all do) so now I'm forced to play at 1900x1080 (or something like that) due to HDMI's 30hz @ 4K limitation. It's hard to revert back to standard HD once you've gone a couple months at 4k. As far as needing a $6000 PC for 4k gaming goes... that's not even close to accurate, unless you're really trying to get that 144hz refresh rate mentioned in the video. I've got Ryzen 1700 and a single R9 390x which runs Crysis 3 on ultra @4k (no AA). Granted my FPS is typically 28-36 on average, but that's pretty good considering...

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HiZ RedShift
HiZ RedShift

here's a tip: 99% of content creators trying to teach you stuff are idiots

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Henry Wilken
Henry Wilken

1p 4000hz master race

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Darcy Kampe
Darcy Kampe

We're still at least 3+ gpu generations away to properly showcase 4k. GTAV is a semi-good showcase of what 4k can do. Crank up the draw distance beyond default and compare screenshots in 1080p and 4k and you will see what I mean. As it stands gpu power isn't there yet. The argument won't end for another 6 or 7 years at least since Nvidia is only one in the high-end graphics card market unfortunately.

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Litu Yang
Litu Yang

Asus Rog pg27uq is 4K 144Hz orAcer Predator X27, that's the way to go.

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WEQN9s
WEQN9s

click bait, 4k gaming is not dumb.

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Louie Szabo
Louie Szabo

Ok here's a question would you be able to test this on projectors I have a epson ex3200 and I am trying to get blurry image to get it more sharper and more clear but my question is what projector would be better for gaming

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EvilNeon
EvilNeon

My personal experience with monitors, for your research's sake, Linus. I'll happily give you some insight to my thoughts :] For an optimal experience in 2019; I feel like the resolution is a bit low for shooter games if below 1440p, because you need to see the distance more accurately. Although, for games like LoL, Starcraft, or DotA, you need higher framerate and even 1080p resolution is alright, so long as the response time and fps are high because you need all those milliseconds to win those games. Now i grew up playing video games on a 8 inch box TV at 480p resolution, nothing special. Fast forward to new standards today, that just wouldn't give me the edge.

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Joel Martin
Joel Martin

Am I the only one that gets anxiety seeing those bolt cutters and tools sloppily hanging above that computer

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Don Beleef
Don Beleef

Playing Skyrim with about 50 4K texture mods on a 47" 4K monitor. I see the different. And I don't notice a problem with refresh rates.

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John Snow
John Snow

Conclusion: 140Hz > 60Hz for competitive gaming.

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Ethan Treachler
Ethan Treachler

once you go 2160p g-sync you don't look back........... even 1440p is horrible.........

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Lancelot du Lac
Lancelot du Lac

good clear explanation, well done!

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Sander Datema
Sander Datema

Military grade encryption? You mean designed by the lowest bidder to just barely fulfill the requirements?

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YonOtto
YonOtto

I have both. 50inch, 4k, 60hz for single player games and 27inch, 144hz, 1440p for online gaming. Meh. 4k looks alot better but 60hz is shit for competitive gaming. 1080Ti handles it all just fine.

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Z Ξ R Ξ N Λ D L I
Z Ξ R Ξ N Λ D L I

4k is overrated, and I have 4k oled tv.

Vor 19 Stunden
Ryan Murphy
Ryan Murphy

You proved your self wrong with video!? What the hell... This video opened my eyes to the fact 4k is superior because you don't need AA!

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Paul Barrett
Paul Barrett

Really good vid, thank you

Vor 21 Stunde
Constantly Variable
Constantly Variable

I went with 4k 60hz for my setup, because i've always preferred Image Quality over Refresh rate. That is a personal thing tho, everybody has their own opinion. One thing I can say tho, is that I don't recommend the Dell Ultrasharps from 2016. Bad Software, Bad Burn-in (from the windows desktop!) and super high wake up and input switch times.

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Bulent Dogan
Bulent Dogan

1080p still top notch but sometimes 4K makes it more enjoyable on adventurous and race games.

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Тимур Курскиев
Тимур Курскиев

I've got 1440p with standard 60 hz, but was able to overclock it up to 85Hz.

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olynxmano
olynxmano

You know the most funny part of when it comes to people judge on the resolution of a game ? People who wear glasses mostly get more than 100% of sharpness view than normal people. So wearing the fitting glasses, they might recognize a difference between 8k and 4k on a Smartphone, if you understand.

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el komodos-drago
el komodos-drago

Plays strategy games from the 2000's.

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Aesop Jones
Aesop Jones

I play 3 separate Eve Online clients simultaneously on a 43 inch 4k display. 2x running at 1080p and 1x at 1440p . I know it's a niche thing but having a 4k display for me is worth it. The benefit is the amount of space I get and allows me to multitask in the silly space game. It's like having 4 seperate 1080p monitors. Eve is a highly competitive game but in different ways than your typical video game.

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minova 70
minova 70

4k res in small monitor for gaming is f*cking useless.

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Slyguy threeonetwonine
Slyguy threeonetwonine

4k is a tax on stupid people.

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thundermanism
thundermanism

4K at 60 FPS, Period, done.

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weeral1
weeral1

For gaming on a screen those sizes I completely agree. For using it as a second monitor, mild gaming, and movies.. 100" 4k 60hz (projector) at the foot of my bed.... = epic/bliss.

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Ultimate Opportunist
Ultimate Opportunist

1080p high settings 140hz is perfect. No reason to go any higher .

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yurisuika
yurisuika

I sit about 2.5" from my monitors. Used to have FHD 23" monitors; now I use QHD 27" ones. Also a jump from 60hz to 165hz, both the pixel density and motion clarity are very pleasing coming from a standard monitor. I'd much rather have the refresh rate increase than the pixels, so when the comparable models of UHD vs QHD (Asus, you know the ones) were my choices, I wouldn't even think to trade these QHD ones for the UHDs. Plus with 28" UHD I'd definitely be doing scaling, and I like the extra real estate I have now.

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Vincent Van der laan
Vincent Van der laan

say people who cant effort xD

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Dennis Coulter
Dennis Coulter

"Military grade encryption" is such a catch phrase ... The reason NO company brags that it is unhackable is that they are all based on the same flawed system, which is at its base unaware of encryption of any kind.

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Jo Grey
Jo Grey

I would be very curious to see this done again but with adaptive sync technologies (freesync/g-sync) and see if the lower refresh rate is really that noticeable. For many many years, all LCD's were 60hz but the black to black response times were wildly different and made a huge difference in ghosting and how smooth things were... so not all 60hz displays are equal. I am of the mindset that 60fps in any game on any setup is doing pretty good... I game on nothing but 60hz displays and usually only at about 35-45 fps and I never really notice it get less smooth. I am not a competitive gamer by any means, but I find a 60hz display with a fast black to black response time (like 2-4ms) to not have noticeable slowness. I think sometimes we all forget that full motion video is only 24 or 30 fps... 60 fps is buttery smooth for 99.999% of the population. I personally would opt for the higher resolution but I like eye-candy more than kill counts. And thank you Linus for finally putting to bed the fact that you CAN see the pixel edges on most computer screens... I don't know how many idiots have tried to tell me it is physically impossible to see the pixels on a 1080p 42in TV when I am standing there looking right at them... where as I see a screen door effect they see nothing but a perfect image, maybe my eye sight is better?? Idk, I don't think so... but what I do know is that even on a 15in 1080p laptop screen I can STILL see where the pixels start and stop.

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coinsagE46m3
coinsagE46m3

Thank you for reaffirming my decision of purchasing my Acer Predator 1440p 165hz monitor.

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Shawn McCown
Shawn McCown

I play on a 55 inch 4K at about 2-2.5 feet away and the difference is very noticeable. While I agree that higher refresh rates do make a big difference, after switching to 4K there is no going back. Even my kids can't stand playing on anything lower than 4K. Next step is to buy two more screens at 4K and build a bigger system. While the Pimax will be what I look forward to for flight and driving sims, 4K triple screen on large screens will be the next best thing. The technology will only get cheaper and faster.

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Seth Allen
Seth Allen

But Linus.. if I wasnt watching in 4K I couldnt admire the glisten in your eyes

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Krnt13
Krnt13

I went 144hz 1080p rather than 4k 60hz, and I don't regret it, I even want to buy a second one for my sister.

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Andreas Schmitt
Andreas Schmitt

amazing !

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Dazzlers Channel
Dazzlers Channel

Sttiiilllllll happy with my 1440p ASUS 279Q.....LOL

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YeTTi
YeTTi

I still have a 60Hz 1080p Hp 23 inch monitor since 2011

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JR
JR

Not exactly what Linius say's You're still Displaying more Pixels and the Detail and Clarity/Sharpness regardless of the lower Refresh rate. I see it in everything a world of difference.

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Sebastian Schmidt
Sebastian Schmidt

Ooh God the complete video is about a bunch of idiots believing thinking (without any facts as prove) and fealing something 😨 I really feel like that watching a video about religious fantastic s Talking about God is real because they can feel it. Sorry but here is so much wrong I really have no idea what should my first one to crush. At least talk about two points. The biggest problem about each talk about "is 4k Worth it" , you need thirst talk about the size of the monitor / TV you are using . In special if it's a computer monitor because you sitting direct in front of it. These monitor becoming bigger and bigger . In my teenager years we had 19" but look today for gamers we have now easy 28" as a standard. And more and more people using bigger TV also computer monitors so we talk about 40"-60" And if you Linus used you're brain before more about thinking and less for talking and playing games, you would know : If you're screen becomes bigger you need more pixel too. Otherwise you're pixel becomes to big and it's like playing a old MS-DOS game . Also a problem is about 4k you need native 4k Games for comparison. If you use game that's "cheating" means it has lower internal rendering resolution and only upscaling these to 4k it's completely pointless to use that for comparison.

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Rodolfo Garcia
Rodolfo Garcia

i always felt 1440p 144hz was the sweet spot, thanks linus and your team for confirming it.

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Андрей Jubeq
Андрей Jubeq

Voice of the guy sounds like he is Todd Howard! Buy Skyrim, please)

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Derek Leiro
Derek Leiro

While here we are complaining about the iPhone Xr's display

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Mateusz Bernat
Mateusz Bernat

Why feet? Murica/Canada, can't ya be normal? - *Screams in Fahrenheit*

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shayelad shayelad
shayelad shayelad

Lynass please hear me out. STFU i unsubed you for a reason you have no content you just pushing out vids. I cant play less then 1440p and 4k looks better. Stay with you 240hrz 1080p screen playing fps(kids) games and STF UUUUUUUUPPPPPP! tnx

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The Dude
The Dude

the asian guy is linus's bitch

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Henrix98
Henrix98

In short, 1440p@144Hz the sweetspot

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Richard H.
Richard H.

What keyboard is that on the second system that has a LED outline on the base? So the keys have an LED but there is also a LED single line outline surrounding the entire base. Anyone know the brand or model name?

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frother
frother

Lel I have that exact 4k 144hz monitor. The 2x 2080Tis are overkill; my box works fine with 2x Titan X.

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tanjinpang
tanjinpang

This testing is flawed!! You should test with Cuphead!!

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Dark Soul Destroyer
Dark Soul Destroyer

I sit 1 foot away from my 60 inch 4K HDR TV

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Do Bo
Do Bo

PG279Q FTW

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Jack
Jack

You are dumb!

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Whitefox2298
Whitefox2298

I never use AA, to me it makes the overall image "dull" especially on textures.

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Reuben Bragg
Reuben Bragg

Can someone please tell me what monitor the 1440 monitor is? Make and model?

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Edmgamer Future
Edmgamer Future

I'll take native 1440p 60fps (via HDMI 1.4) and upscale it on my 4K TV🤑👍

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Supr1me
Supr1me

So is it a big difference between 1080p and 1440p 144hz monitors then? I'm perfectly fine with 1080p, and it's durable for the future since the GPU market is kinda stupid right now.

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Supr1me
Supr1me

+The5GIO5 1440p 144hz momitor with a good panel is the way to go...

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The5GIO5
The5GIO5

+radkenation Wow :/ Why exactly is it like that?

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radkenation
radkenation

yeah I just bought a new 1080p 60hz IPS monitor which has a huge upgrade from the thrash monitor I had before, and I'm doing just fine for the moment aswell. I live in Brazil and electronics here are WAAAAAAY expensive for us to keep up with the north american gaming trends. Just for comparison, a mid-end gaming PC in brazil can cost as much as 3 times the minimum wage, meanwhile you can get a similar computer with $200 dollars, merely 10-15% of the minimum wage in the USA. So, for now, I think i'll wait until 1440p becomes more accessible. I'm fine with what I have but i'm looking forward to these new techs :)

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The5GIO5
The5GIO5

+Supr1me yea but if you had to upgrade

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Supr1me
Supr1me

+The5GIO5 I am doing well with my current setup.

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Triz ENY
Triz ENY

4K gaming is awesome I don't get the title of this video anyone who gets a 4K can see the huge difference in 4K tv gaming even without a console which fully supports it. I use a 4K on a old Xbox one and everything looks so crisp and amazing with no turn blur. I got the Xbox one X and immediately saw a bigger difference. So I guess all the science and bs in the world doesn't change the actuality of something lol

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eenayeah
eenayeah

I'm a whopping 40+ inches from my monitor... well, TV.

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GamerGrizz
GamerGrizz

To be fair to 4K monitors, a lot of them could run 1080p at 120Hz or higher. I bought a Viewsonic XG-2700 4K and use it at 1440p 90Hz for a good balance between clarity and les sanic speeds. For $250 Canadian rubles (Floor model, MemExp) it serves me well.

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Rocket Science
Rocket Science

Relevant to only blind monitor gamers I suppose. After upgrading from a 55" 1080p TV to. 55" 4k TV, the difference is night and day, like going from 480 to 1080.

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eeLeerKay
eeLeerKay

One day we’ll have 4M screens

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Panzer_Slasher125
Panzer_Slasher125

man I can barely afford 1080P 75 hz

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Bentzy R
Bentzy R

people actually indeed sit 1.7 feet from the monitor.. half a meter

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Thomas
Thomas

Title Correction: "4K gaming is for people with a disposable income"

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F.A.I
F.A.I

1440p and 144hz is the sweet spot as always.

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FrnchFriez
FrnchFriez

So wait why are consoles able to play 4k games while PC games struggle to do so? I mean im new to PC so can anyone explain? Thanks

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The5GIO5
The5GIO5

I think console 4k is 30fps

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ETERNAL LORD
ETERNAL LORD

1440p/144hz Monitors are easily the best way to go nowadays

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SheepAmongGoats
SheepAmongGoats

That's because consoles cater to the television, and TVs are 4k. Sounds like Linus is focusing on PC. How many PC gamers that have a 4k monitor are still using 1440p res? I've thought about doing it myself, but hesitant because native is always better.

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Steven Levinson
Steven Levinson

Hey im looking to "shit money" and buy a 5k desktop computer not including the monitor or anything. What parts would you recommend? Was going to buy a decked out Alienware 51 threadripper but heard the cooling on them sucked and it was over priced so i want to build my own for the first time. I do want a 4k display I game alot but also want to be able to whatever my heart desires with the computer and not be limited. I plan to keep it for a long period

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zynxed
zynxed

imagine making 1 million videos about 4k gaming or higher and now call it dumb hmmmmm..........

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Dragutin Todosijevic
Dragutin Todosijevic

all to ovrsample cnsole games how dumb

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Stefan Heiler
Stefan Heiler

I played CS 1.6 and Quake 3 on my 17" Trinitron CRT monitor at 120Hz almost 20 Years ago. High refresh rates are nothing new actually. But the benefits were forgotten!

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DuhBaDuh
DuhBaDuh

1080p with a refresh rate of 144hz is good enough for me

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Buy Slap City!
Buy Slap City!

I feel so happy with my purchase of that monitor in the middle. Ever since I got it I feel extra master race and this video is making me feel gloriously extra master race.

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The5GIO5
The5GIO5

What gpu

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tikiclock
tikiclock

This video is available in 4K.. lol.

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A F
A F

FINALLY its explained to people!!

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samcohanun
samcohanun

I have a RTX 2080 Ti and i am using 1440p and 165hz. My first monitor was a 4K monitor. Sent it back. No comparison to higher frame rates. Maybe we are ready for such technology with the RTX 4080 Pii. 😜

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Dekan Trubility
Dekan Trubility

random question: between 2 monitors of identical description, with the following exceptions, which would you choose? monitor 1: 75hz refresh rate monitor without freesync monitor 2: 60hz refresh rate with freesync edit: i realize 60hz is garbage now, im just budget shopping atm and those are my current options i can afford lol. cheers in advance

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BillyTheSillyWilly
BillyTheSillyWilly

60hz isn't garbage now, most people can't afford more than that

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Julian john
Julian john

im sitting on my bed about 5 feet away from the screen I don't like sitting close to it I use usb hub and some extensions

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Joel Berry
Joel Berry

This guy makes some interesting factual videos my only problem with him is that he's all about Wind-Blows when this is a LINUX world.

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SexDrugsNpostprod
SexDrugsNpostprod

agreed

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SexDrugsNpostprod
SexDrugsNpostprod

3kliksphilip did it better tho

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paul reeves
paul reeves

just bought 2080 ti and was going to upgrade my 3440x1440 100hz omen x35 to a 4k hdr monitor, don't think i will bother now. thanks for saving me £1500 linus :)

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MotoRacer171
MotoRacer171

I have a 1080p monitor and cannot even see the pixels. 1440p is gonna be perfect

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freshy
freshy

http://www.gofundme.com/rc5bf-pc-build

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Grouik R7
Grouik R7

Poor Linus, why play with small screen. 4K is good with 65" and 2 m distance.

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BVB 09
BVB 09

Linus said, "Unless you shit money"...LOL!

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Sean Moore
Sean Moore

How far can I be from a 55inch screen

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michael lynch
michael lynch

try spotting a soldier in rising storm in 1080p

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IAmCasualty
IAmCasualty

for me im fine with 1080p but the highest i'd jump to like linus said is 1440

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4c1dr3fl3x
4c1dr3fl3x

Says 4k is too many Ks. Proceeds to use the tiniest 4k monitors available, completely ignores screen size to prop up the aging 1440p, 144hz at 27-32 inch meme

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