The Cognitive Tradeoff Hypothesis


roswellautopsia
roswellautopsia

This is so much of a half-assed History channel kind of show, all with questionable hypothesis and blurry conclusions it's a shame someone so science, and logic driven like Michael is doing it. Michael always gave us proved knowledge based on facts and with reliable sources.

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Allan Dsouza
Allan Dsouza

Asians may be smart but we're smarter than their animals Asian Chimpanzee: hold my beer

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Dozie G
Dozie G

Dear Vsauce, Can you please make a video about the psychology of people wanting biological kids VS adoption? I can't have kids and the prospect of adoption has ruined two relationships even though I'm only in my early 20's. Men seem to be fixated on the idea of wanting to pass on their DNA to a far greater degree than women and I'd like to understand it more. Thanks Xx

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Hi
Hi

That one time you don’t have premium but can still watch mind field episodes.

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Josh L
Josh L

Monks use to take vows of silence to improve focus. We should have a national sign language everyone shut up day. Would be the only holiday no one vocalizes and I would celebrate it. They would also do this with blind folds as well. By limiting one sense it increases the others. We rely to much on what we hear and are always imagining our future. Monkeys just instinctively respond to the now with no concept of the future. Monkeys are the monks of the trees, for the old idol of monkeys that see now evil, hear no evil, do no evil would teach us much if people realize we are blinded by an abundance of information for the smartest and wisest man says nothing. Also I believe we didnt come from monkeys because our DNA is 98% in common, we are also 97.5% a blood worm. That 2% alien DNA is what makes us special and different than any monkey for our eyes and brains are far more advanced. If we did come from monkeys we had to become aquatic at some point in order to lose our hair. Also would account for making us weaker since in water things are lighter. All mammals with little hair spend much time in the water. Monkeys fear water because they sink due to no body fat. So I try to keep a open mind as to how we could have adapted into what we call humanity now. I think the ancient alien idea is just as believable that some alien race landed here and uploaded there DNA into the closest Biped they could find that could handle the upgrade without losing its Alpha status in the animal kingdom, thus ensuring the DNA will survive and explains why monkeys haven't progressed to neanderthals again by random mutation. Other idea is cosmic radiation mutation, but it wouldn't change the bone structure of the eye socket nor would our feet be straight. We would have thumbs on our feet and be way stronger had we evolved in just the trees. Lucy the monkey they traced our DNA back to was only 98% in common with us. So this proves monkeys haven't changed DNA but they have adapted with time yet the base code remains the same if you study RNA and DNA. This is my own theory so take it with a grain of salt but ask the Hippo or Elephant why they arn't hairy. Our brains are more in common with dolphins truth be known. my 2cents. Love peace and prosperity and enjoyed the show! Grateful fan - Josh

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ERIC CURE
ERIC CURE

Kïłł mę, płeåšë. Møm fôüñd łhė põōp śōçk. T-T

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shelomoh
shelomoh

POWERFUL MESSAGE!

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SimplyEyolf
SimplyEyolf

Click the numbers! To beat... numbers!

Vor 16 Stunden
Saatvik Agrawal
Saatvik Agrawal

Hold on a second. I think this research can really be elaborated. We humans use strategies like mnemonics, flowcharts, and other methods to memorize unrelated information. What devices or techniques do chimpanzees use? You see, if we tap into that (assuming such a thing exists) we could harness their mental power. But there's one more thing. We humans developed these techniques due to our less capacity of memory, whereas chimps may not have to had done such a thing. Mabye their natural capacity itself was sufficient.

Vor 19 Stunden
Aiden O'Connell
Aiden O'Connell

Weather then memerorizing the numbers left to wright micheal looked for them in order of 1 2 3 4 and so on

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Sebastian Rodriguez Colina
Sebastian Rodriguez Colina

How do they get the order right?

Vor 20 Stunden
freeideas
freeideas

Chimps can, over time, can learn how to remember and identify the placement of digits 0-9 in a split second. Humans can, over time, learn how to remember and identify the placement music notes, pressing up to 10 keys on a piano, also in a split second. These seem -- to me at least -- to be similar skills, except I would say that playing the piano is FAR more difficult. Is this really a case of a mental feat that chimps can do that humans can't?

Vor 20 Stunden
Upgrayedd
Upgrayedd

Well, recognizing music is a language skill. And children under the age of 6 have much higher rates of photographic memory. That's the tradeoff hypothesis: that humans and chimps have a similar brain region for photographic memory, except humans mostly use it only for language skills.

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Aiden O'Connell
Aiden O'Connell

freeideas the problem with humans is I always saw the eyes of micheal darting across the screen to look for numbers in numerical order weather then left to wright and no human can memorize 10 notes in less then 7/10 of a second

Vor 6 Stunden
nobedman848
nobedman848

Subscribe ti Pewdiepie

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mad Rascal
mad Rascal

These chimps are paid actors

Vor 23 Stunden
jimmi hotdog
jimmi hotdog

Far out more please yea.

Vor 23 Stunden
Froh Natur
Froh Natur

Is it certain, that this test is about memory? When you showed Ayumu's test at the beginning, I only even registered 3 numbers. It's hard to recognize 9 symbols in a split second. Also it would seem to make more sense to me, if chimpanzees preserved the skill to quickly recognize patterns (as in the example with counting predators, and making a quick fight-or-flight decision, which seems to be more about pattern recognition); more so than it does with memory.

Vor 23 Stunden
statisdt
statisdt

Kicked out from forest like Adam kicked out from garden .Since his memory was bad just forgot forbiden tree.. lol

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Kaspar
Kaspar

How do they know how to count though?

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Aaron Schwartz
Aaron Schwartz

vsauce you should know better than to show us linear evolution, show a phylogenetic tree

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Hans Anitiser
Hans Anitiser

22:05 the best part

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Jessie Sgouros
Jessie Sgouros

I want to see Tetsuro Matsuzawa do it

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Marcos Paullo Rocha
Marcos Paullo Rocha

conheci o canal só agora kk🤦‍♂️🙀 muito top

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Hans Neumann
Hans Neumann

It's so interesting!👍😆 P.S. I love Japan!)

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Rob Overholt
Rob Overholt

Where could i download this software so we can try? I think its like typing, with practice, we can cruise too.. Not sold on this video.. Also, Michael knows the camera is watching, Youtube the company will be watching, the editor will see it and the rest of the world will too, so many things getting him out of "the zone".. anyways.. whatev'....

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quantum bracket
quantum bracket

the monolith gave us language

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Jk Gaming
Jk Gaming

Hey Michael vsauce here

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Danvitinho
Danvitinho

I would unronically watch every episode of this if was free

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Mp57navy
Mp57navy

4:55 "look at monkeys" 5:01 "cameraman shows great ape" Remember kids: Monkey have tails, apes do not.

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Stasko
Stasko

0:32 my team in league of legends

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enchanted wolf
enchanted wolf

My mom said I look like a chimp so yea I know what to say when she tell me that

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Veronika C
Veronika C

What about some marine mammals languages and cognitive abilities? Somehow I failing to see the differences between “humans” and “animals” more pronounced than differences between two animal kinds.

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Team Rocket
Team Rocket

try memorising it as a picture not as 9 numbers in 9 different spots while figuring out the numerical order .

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PlasmaFuzer
PlasmaFuzer

I think Dr. Matsuzawa's research is quite interesting, and his experimental setup is quite good. I am thoroughly impressed he developed a method of training chips to be able to develop cognitively and to demonstrate that development in a consistent, repeatable way. However what was shown here _at best_ demonstrates consistency with the hypothesis, and nothing more. Michael's failure to reproduce Ayumi's speed at the game demonstrates nothing. Chips are recognized as having impressive cognitive ability (at least within the animal kingdom). Dr. Matsuzawa's research demonstrates that chimp's can be effectively trained to perform tasks (to my knowledge this was already known and demonstrated, and not just for chimps!). Ayumi has been playing this game presumably since it was able to climb into the box along with its mother. This could be many months, to many years (exact age was not specified) of exposure to this training paradigm. During this time Ayumi started off slowly and with a low number of digits and then progressed to the blistering fast pace with a high number of digits. Given a chimp's aforementioned ability to respond to training, this should have been expected. What should also have been expected, is Michael's _inability_ to reproduce this precise end state ability (the speed and accuracy) his first time playing this game. It is not surprising that he was unable to match the speed or accuracy of the highest performing chimp, as he has undergone *no* training whatsoever. Additionally, there are signs he was progressing himself fairly quickly. His times generally were trending down, and his accuracy was trending up (he completed the last puzzle of the set, also in the fastest time). Again, not shocking as his repeated exposure to the tests were serving as training for the subsequent test. I don't dismiss this research or its corresponding hypothesis in its entirety because I understand that it is possible in the associated publications they did comparative trials of one form or another (rates of learning, top end performance, etc.) showing chimps with equivalent training times as their human counterparts were consistently outperforming these humans. However I am being generous here because the claim/hypothesis, though intriguing and with evidence demonstrating consistency, is in my opinion not actually being tested with what was shown here; and hence I am speculating as to what _else_ has been done that was not shown. Again, at best, this research presentation demonstrated that chimps can be trained (already known) and with that training they can out perform humans with no training (impressive but not all that unexpected). However without evidence showing humans can not perform at or above this level, with a corresponding amount of training time, I assert the hypothesis remains thoroughly untested.

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Pentti Hilkuri
Pentti Hilkuri

What type of watch is that on Michael's wrist?

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Madam Atom
Madam Atom

4:55 "Look at monkeys" _ Dr. Desktop Matsuzawa 2019

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Tehvoodoo19
Tehvoodoo19

I wonder if this is why people on the autistic spectrum can sometimes excel at this sort of task, because of the lack of development of, or impaired, language ability.

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Ham Bone
Ham Bone

my man look like hes off to gaykumes circumcision

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Alex Shyshonkov
Alex Shyshonkov

I got here from ApeSex Legends

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Kioku
Kioku

23:29 I more so *know* what I'm supposed to see in dreams. I can't see the cheetah, but I convince myself I do.

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Kioku
Kioku

5:50 Not to be confused with that one spacecraft.

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this guy
this guy

humans can easily do that with a small practice..we can have multiple languages and photographic memories..

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David Weihe
David Weihe

Was this test run for people who learned their letters at age 9-10 (about as late as possible)? It is well known that learning to read and write lessens your ability to memorize things (unless you are weird, like Art Benjamin or Marilu Henner), and early reading reduces it even more than normal (age 6) or late initial reading age.

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TheGameLecturer
TheGameLecturer

Mind blown.

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Justin Haynes
Justin Haynes

@Vsauce, How do the chimpanzees learn the sequence of the numbers?

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LittleSpoon
LittleSpoon

my mind has been blown!!!!!

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JC
JC

Ok. That's it. Time to subscribe.

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vegard pig
vegard pig

*look* *at* *spider* *monkey*

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Zekemeout
Zekemeout

Wtf michael?

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Yuvraj Mallick
Yuvraj Mallick

19:21 *_Ayumu_* (after seeing this) : _Aa aa uu uu_ ( *Translation* : Yeah Michael that could help beginners)

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Guks grt
Guks grt

your DoppelgangeR http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChpZzbYdeyO1is7-xGJsw8Q

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Flying Squirrel FPV
Flying Squirrel FPV

Has this experiment been performed with autistic savants? If they can perform at the level of the chimps then perhaps a brain scan could be used to compare the physical differences with an average brain.

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Tendai Ball
Tendai Ball

Poetic that we got kicked out of the trees and now we run the world

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Lane Krischke
Lane Krischke

The only part of this that amazes me is how the chimps can recognize and understand our numeric system. They recognize the symbols and their order. Pretty amazing, I wonder if they could be taught a basic pictogram language.

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

we defended our existence.. so we developed focused observation they ruled over an area so the defense was not that much... they needed to focus on multiple subjects to achieve their goals such as the threats in the bush.. they were strong , aggressive so they would fight everyone evading their territory. we were weak , so we had to plan to survive

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John Talmage
John Talmage

I see based on many comments that it's easier to critique than to create

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

if there were figures and you have to draw them.. you might be able to draw 1 or 2 with much more details where as a champ would draw all the figures at the exact same location they were before disappearing, they won't be able to draw any details

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

we notice more about one but can't focus on others they focus on all... can't notice even a single one as better as we do

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

michael..... we focus on one subject they do it on multiple ones.. how's that expl

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arun sheokand
arun sheokand

Great video, great message

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debu1997
debu1997

Awesome!

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Fatboy Vladimir
Fatboy Vladimir

Subtitle the Japanese guy speaking perfectly discernible English.

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Chen Yumin
Chen Yumin

No!! God made humans!! We are not monkeys!!! You are wrong!! Evolution is a myth!!

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Gamebuster19901
Gamebuster19901

Meh, speed cubers do more complex tasks than this with only a few more seconds.

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Parsa F. Kondori
Parsa F. Kondori

I miss the old Michael

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Dill Funk
Dill Funk

I don't believe evolution, such a big lie

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Grim Lock
Grim Lock

Rise of the planets of the apes

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EinfacherVincent
EinfacherVincent

I wanted to say, an amazing thing to do, go into the dictonary look a a word. Search about it and find out about it. Put it into a folder on the computer Expand your knowledge. Reverse learning.

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Awkward Italian Girl
Awkward Italian Girl

I’m too high for this.

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EveryCrazyDay
EveryCrazyDay

Honestly what a pioneer in animal research, get tons of research in realistic conditions. Also looks like this guy really cares and understands these cousins of the humans

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kliop00023
kliop00023

holy Rock, Paper, Scissors - YouTube !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-N72oVgp2I&list=PLZRRxQcaEjA6mH0AMUIERDpbWX5rvMdKf&index=2 Kyoto University Ph.D. candidate Jie Gao shares her research involving Chimpanzees and the schoolyard game “Rock, Paper, Scissors.” Partner rating I Release date 05/12/2018 Running time 3:37 Language English Category Science & Technology

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OG Studio
OG Studio

10:56 when you buy cheetos

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Baiklzr
Baiklzr

5.7 k chimpanzees in the dislikes smh

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Alligatorcrocs
Alligatorcrocs

Subscribe to call me Carson

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John Cochran
John Cochran

If they believe the difference is sharing vs short term decision making, could this be used to diagnose antisocial personality disorder/psychopathy and better understand what it means to be psychopathic?

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samantha ohanlon
samantha ohanlon

how do they know the numbers

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Tonberry King
Tonberry King

These people really need to study the Stoned Ape Hypothesis

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IAMDIMITRI
IAMDIMITRI

Will a human grown up in the same environment have a malleable enough brain to be able to compete with the chimps?

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Recnid
Recnid

How did they teach the chimps numbers tho? They need to know 2 comes before 3 in order to succeed.

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Lunar 76
Lunar 76

The amount of humanity that was in this video is stunning, and heartwarming.

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Lunar 76
Lunar 76

This is awesome

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D Dover
D Dover

They should present other examples of the brain engaging in a cognitive trade off to support the brain does this, where the brain decreases the size of an area to make room for another area. Did our common ancestor 6 million years ago have the same ability to memorize like modern chimps do? or is it something that they developed independent of our linage over millions of years? Since we did not evolve from modern chimps how do you say we lost something they now possess? I just want to see some evidence presented besides it seems logical.

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Torab Abdullah
Torab Abdullah

we all know that the people who talk too much use less brain in thinking. so does this make them better competitor at this memory game? cause opposite to those who talk less and think too much thus, have better practice in converting thoughts into words must suck at this game? and how would you prove that this tradeoff actually happened? my biggest question is why don't we see evolution now? where are the in betweeners who started their journey becoming humans and still only half way through?

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Far Cry 4
Far Cry 4

Кто от Стаса?

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Mikhail V
Mikhail V

Следует заметит что только 1 обезьяна показывает такой результат. Результат каждой обезьяны будет сильно различаться и это скорее всего связано с обучением обезьян к повторяющимся однообразным задачам. Человек также может развить этот навык. Так что тут ничего не следует, нас обманули расходимся.

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Donald Piniach
Donald Piniach

A dash of autism and a bit of Ritalin and Michael would be ordering the Babylonian numerical system faster than any chimp.

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Георгий
Георгий

I think, that if you will be training one person from childhood to do this, he can do even better

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Jose Miguel
Jose Miguel

What if we had a human not talk with no one , would he develop some kind of language or thinking , or would he be just like chimps ?

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Eternal Reign
Eternal Reign

Whoa whoa whoa, hold the phone, never mind that the chimps could memorize it so quickly, who taught them what was the right order, or how to count to begin with? I feel like I missed an episode here.

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Radvslavvs van der Staaz
Radvslavvs van der Staaz

Michael you should say the numbers out loud to use this "trade-off" but, you can not say a few numbers in half a second. If we have exchanged the perfect photographic memory for communication skills. This should be marked in the test of man and animal.

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mlg dash
mlg dash

Hey Vsauce Michael here

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WashYourHands
WashYourHands

1:20 Ninja: *StReAm SnIpErS*

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Maksym Edel
Maksym Edel

Sharing is a part of every social life. The monkeys have developed a simple society, where they are busy with surviving, thus they share only vital information whereas we, humans, share everything and we engage our brain with this task. If we, humans (that can program / create 100 PetaFlops supercomputers) would degrade to the monkey's level we would be the most successful, but yet more dangerous species than we are now. We would develop ability to hunt under water (gills), we would be the best hunters and at the end, we would still become what we are now - humans (if to follow the theory of evolution). Because our brain was made not to just survive, but to dominate and rule. We are some kind of an experiment, not evolution's creature, because no single species on the Earth have been able to developed one thing - brain size/neurons density. That's why monkeys are monkeys, humans are humans. We have never been split, we are different. We share everything we see, monkeys share only vital information.

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roberob13 13
roberob13 13

How come no one ever talks about what we are going to evolve into?

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DancingCheese
DancingCheese

For people giving hate for this video, I think it’s important to address that the point of MindField is not to prove anything. I watched the first two seasons, each episode is an example of interesting anomalies of human psychology, normally including a type of experiment. The point of Mind Field, and most Vsauce videos, I think, is to simply inspire. It’s bite-sized science, the introduction of an interesting idea with a bit of research to back up on it, ending with some type of existential or uplifting thought. It’s supposed to inspire people to be interested in human psychology, to look into it and research it, not to prove that something like the cognitive tradeoff hypothesis is true. This video isn’t something Michael expects to be referenced in a scientific paper, it’s something Michael expects the viewers to recall when reading a scientific paper.

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Sophia Shakti
Sophia Shakti

You should devote a whole series to Russian scientist S. V. Saveliev. His ideas incorporate the ones you mentioned and develop them much further through comparative cytoarchetectonic studies of the brain.

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chronischtelaat
chronischtelaat

But of course Ayumu has been trained since he was a child. Micheal's brain had already matured and has never done the task before. I wonder if a child, trained from the same age and trained the same amount would be on the same level as the chimp. A young brain still has a lot of plasticity.

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Lemonstate
Lemonstate

I love Professor Tetsura Matsuzawa, so smart, humane and that cheeky humour is wondrous!

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Helevatic
Helevatic

that intro ooooooooo snap this will be good

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freeideas
freeideas

Wait! Something they didn't talk about: The chimps have practiced this before, maybe for YEARS! Wouldn't a human, practicing this maybe every day for a year, become extraordinarily good at these tests? I think so. Am I missing something?

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Upgrayedd
Upgrayedd

You cannot practice to have a photographic memory. This study is more related to children under the age of 6 having higher rates of photographic memory before they develop abstract thinking. Youtube just made it out to be a monkey social justice issue.

Vor 3 Stunden
freeideas
freeideas

If you or I were to practice these tests for a few minutes almost every day, as it appears these chimps do, I believe within a few months, we would be *at least* as good at them as these chimps are. Maybe the point of the video still stands, because maybe chimps do better on these tests *first try* than humans do. But the video doesn't say that. It only shows very-highly-practiced chimps competing with a human on his first attempt.

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Metal Material
Metal Material

Well even then we wouldn’t be able to process how many figures there even are in the time it takes for them to process each number in order. We can’t not process the numbers as language and numbers. Just like how if someone is talking you can’t choose to not understand them, you process the language anyway.

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thenameisblu
thenameisblu

Not only that but as humans we are processing not only the numbers but the idea of the numbers. We don't know how much the visual data in a chimps mind is being processed or even how.

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Ina Grund ♥️
Ina Grund ♥️

i never knew that monkeys know the decimal system.

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technical kd
technical kd

nice grow your channel:- #technicalkd

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